I don’t even ship otayuri, I firmly believe that their relationship is still developing, and the only canon that wttm proves is that these guys are still in the bro phase and are extremely supportive of each other (especially after reading the manga) like but sit there and watch me still be called a fucking pedo for liking the interactions of wttm anyway.
Also “sexualizing” cmon fuck off, you call that sexual I didn’t know there were so many innocent babies on here where a guy ripping of someone’s fucking glove was way to sexual for a 15 year old, do you know what the 15 year olds at my school fucking do, finger each other on the schools main stairs, have sex in church parking lots, make out in the hallways, and literally go to orgys. You can miss me with that “ your sexualizing him” shit.
Also if you believe this to only be fan service, then why is there a manga depicting both Otabeks and Yuris feelings on why he is doing this in the first place, ( I know you guys haven’t even read the manga or know what it is so this is probably a dumb point) if it was simply fan-service we would get the free skate and then nothing else, yuri wants to get out there, show off who he is, he wants to surprise his audience, and just do something that’s finally all him and his own decision. This isn’t fan-service it’s character development.
I’m literally only 16, and at 15 I was still just as fucking crude, where is the difference between me and yuri, why the fuck is he the pure one, I am literally mimicking the way he speaks and for some reason he can’t express himself the same way I am now because why? Or let me guess I’m a pedo because I’m sexualizing myself now. Yuri be out there calling people bitches and shit and he some sort of kind innocent pure baby in your eyes,
Y’all act like a finger in the mouth for two seconds must basically be sex, I don’t know about anyone else, but fan-service is supposed to be arousing to its audience, and I can tell you I’ve watched enough Fucking porn to say I’m definitely not getting wet from this.
Well, they think it’s “representation” when everything concerning victuuri is open to interpretation, when every romantic gesture is played for laughs or denied by the main character in show.
I still remember this massive post on why YOI is a sport anime in which the main characters who happen to be gay, while haikyuu and Kurobas are queerbaiting. That fucking nerves…..I wish I could block everyone who reblogged that freaking post. There isn’t even enough sport in YOI to call it a sport anime. When YOI fans find it impossible to defend the show as sport anime, they switch their argument to “it focuses on romance”, but they’d still struggle to defend why the show has more fanservice than unambiguous romance (fujobaits don’t count as romance).
I too find it ironic YOI fans look down at yaoi when they clearly enjoy the sexualization of male characters in YOI. They act like they desperately care “canon gay couple”, but they’re actually disdainful of yaoi in which the couples are absolutely more canon than victuuri.
I don’t think they care about canon gay couple, if that’s what they care, doukyuusei would’ve exploded on tumblr instead of YOI. The movie actually acknowledges the low key homophobia, the characters are clearly portrayed as in a romantic relationship for the majority of the movie. The characters are average highschool students, there’s no superstar skater magically show up at the MC’s door, the characters have the humility to admit they don’t know shit about each other. Everything in doukyuusei make better and more realistic representation than YOI.
But that’s also what makes doukyuusei less self-insert friendly for these straight girls. Acknowledgement of homophobia would be clearly awkward and unnecessary for media targeted at straight women. It’s not something they find relevant in their own romantic fantasy. Neither Sajou or kusakabe is famous, there’s no sensational and flashy stuff like a proposal on intentional TV to gratify these women’s absurd ego. The couple have the nerves to say they don’t know anything about each other also doesn’t fit with these women’s fantasy. They want a ship they can rub it into others’ face how perfect and healthy it is, how it’s better than other ships.
Exactly what i mean!
Also, yoi would be a bl/shounen ai, but the point remains!
Listen. If you stop showing me a characters perfomance to show me how sad/upset another chara is… Especially if it involves their love interest? Yeah… Not sports.
Also..
One day ill list all the shit people claim Otayuri and Sheith have as bad ships and compare the list to viktuuri. The result is amazing…
And god how people make yuuri a little saint that can do no wrong and to viktor too ohgod how it pisses me off! Viktor is quite manipulative and double-faced. Hes not a “cinnamon bun”. If he did that face grab he did to Yuri(o) to yuuri or to a girl…? Boy… Hed be the biggest asshole!
But viktuuri is so fucking perfect aint it?
They cant even skate without each other and we dont actually see yuuri come off of his “viktor is so above me” but these other ships are the ones with co-dependency issues and power imbalances?
Oh, and lets not talk how viktor basically emotionally manipulated directly and indirectly both Yuri(o) and Chris at the final and how the people he most patronizes (yura) and dislikes (jj) are the only ones that tell it to him as it is, dont fall for his shit AND, most important, are the ONLY ones he sees as true rivals.
It’s not that FS isn’t a sport. Because it IS and takes a huge amount of dedication and skill. It’s just that skating was a sideplot and the main focus was Yuuri’s relationship with Victor, making it a romance/comedy with a sprinkling of sports rather than a sports anime with a sprinkling of romance.
And it’s a shame because the execution was professionally done, the choreography was (according to irl skaters) accurate and realistic. The team put a great amount of effort with the budget they had into creating the routines, the different costumes, the soundtrack, everything. HOWEVER, none of that is attributable to the writers/producers. Just because Kubo & co. hired a good team, doesn’t mean anything.
It’s like they were building around the skating, like “oh let’s just write a thing about some guy discovering his eros & leave the actual performance up to the animators/designers lol.” I would like to know a single place in the anime where it had to be FS specifically. Was there ever a plot point where some technical or setting aspect of figure skating was mentioned? It’s like the plot and the skating aren’t integrated.
Part of it is probably because it’s an original anime developed by a team and not like Haikyuu!! or Oofuri, adapted from a manga by one (or a few) people. No, I’m not expecting an anime about a performance sport to be the same as those about points-based team sports. Cheer Danshi!! had a performance sport (cheerleading) & it was decent. But it feels like Kubo didn’t even try. Bc the super hot gayz are 97% of yoi’s appeal. The only people who watch yoi for the skating are irl figure skaters. That’s the truth. While it’s great that y’all have accurate representation, sports anime is supposed to be accessible to people who know absolutely nothing. Look I hate sports. With a passion. If someone mentions anything sports related my eyes glaze over and my soul dies. That’s why I was (am) SHOOK about Oofuri, Haikyuu!! etc not being absolute torture.
I’m a humble plebiean, I need things explained to me. Maybe some people can understand things just,,, based on context but when I’m watching these routines I have no fucking clue what’s going on. There’s a post on tumblr about how amazing Yuuri’s triple jump or whatever was, I shouldn’t need to see a tumblr post about it I should just see it in the anime itself. It just feels like a gigantic case of *telling* and not showing. In other sports anime at least you can understand “oh the ball go whoosh” and “cool they’re doing the thing”. Do I fucking know the difference between nice receive! and one-touch! No. But that doesn’t stop me from watching Haikyuu!!. People say yoi is good because it doesn’t have the super hyped action moves that others (ahem, KnB) do. In fact yoi doesn’t have any moves at all. Yuuko’s triplets are named axel, lutz, and loop, but what does that mean? I don’t know. Kubo probably doesn’t either. Everything, all the professional choreography and whatnot, is just an accessory to Victuuri’s relationship, to make it feel more skating-y.
It would be nice if we knew how Victor concretely impacted Yuuri’s performance, other than teaching him the Power of Love to cure his anxiety. But instead of skating they use their (mediocre, shouldn’t have won the Crunchyroll awards) animation on shiny lips and naked sauna scenes. From the beginning it’s all about Victor. Yoi doesn’t begin with “a tall tall wall looms ahead of me”, it’s all “ooooh victor never fails to impress me so hot wow.” (btw even Free! w it’s emphasis on teenage drama starts out talking about water not people)
Sports anime is supposed to have a *goal* to get somewhere or become stronger. In the finale, even if they lose the competition the characters will have learned something. You might lose but you’re no longer the tyrant king. You might lose but you’ve learned to trust your teammates esp. your catcher. Yuuri’s character arc was never finished. He didn’t overcome his anxiety, or stand on equal terms as Victor. Instead it’s on the ice we call everything love, his love for skating is becoming mixed up with his ~“love”~ for Victor. Because Victuuri is the main selling point here. The audience isn’t a typical sports anime shonen crowd, it’s 20-something yaoi fangirls who think Viktuuri is the hottest thing ever. Everyone knows yoi isn’t about the skating.
on NHK featuring pro athletes from various sports. This is Yanagida Masahiro, his favourite character is Bokuto. A middle blocker (Yamauchi) from the national team also reads haikyuu. In the program, he tried to do the freak quicks blind folded with his setter (Sekita, also in the national team), they did succeed several times! So this move isn’t magic.
btw, there’re pro baseball players who read Diamond no Ace and Major too. This isn’t special. YOI fandom pls shut up about how their fav is the first anime to get acknowledged by pro athletes.
Yep go ahead YOI Fandom. Look me in the eye and tell me this anime doesn’t have cheap fanservice. Tell me this anime isn’t aimed at a fujoshi audience. Try to convince me how revolutionary it is. Try to convince me how it’s better than mob Psycho 100 or cowboy bebop.
I saw that post too and I had a similar reaction like… funding this show when they still haven’t had canon LGBTQ representation means you’re not really helping… at all… like stop please
If you really do care about helping lgbtq community in Japan then you could y’know:
Help fundraise for this documentary being made about Japan’s first LGBT law firm (x)
Support projects/ programs that are being run by Japanese LGBTQ people like LGBT Youth Japan
Try to understand some of the real issues facing Japanese LGBTQ people: Takurei’s Room is a good site to start for English speakers, and you can also check HRW which has some good coverage of Japan’s bullying/ education issues. GayJapanNews and Tres-bian has a list of Japanese LGBT sites. All of them are in Japanese but google translator can be your friend. Gachirezu! is a magazine for lesbians. I found it on google in a second. Literally THE WORLD IS YOUR OYSTER. GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND.
Purchase Shimanami Tasogare, Hourou Musuko, which are good mangas with canon LGBT representation. Support LGBT ARTISTS like Tagame Gengorou. Support LGBT magazines/books/art!
Literally you can do so many things with your money and time besides funding this anime series!!!!
What i thought everytime i see people say “yoi is so revolutionary”. No. Its not. Its a normal bl.
And yes, if you worry so much please suport REAL LIFE lgbt people in japan and russia, we all know they need it.
headcanon: yurio’s surprised to see victuuri barely aging despite getting older but victor says it’s bc the power of love makes them younger 😉 (sticker/insta)
even if otayuri was sexual, as of march 1st it’s perfectly legal in both of their home countries and this is literally just me stating facts. google is free people. goodnight
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