iamyourdiscourse:

rottenboysclub:

just-antithings:

Just Anti Things: who cares how the Japanese people who invented the term use this word? also apparently women aren’t oppressed anymore XD

@rottenboysclub would you care to help me unpack this suitcase full of shit, or should I just throw it out?

“You aren’t oppressed for shipping abusive relationships”

Being a fujoshi has nothing to do with “shipping abuse” or whatever other item is on the agenda for westerners. It just means a woman who likes fictional mxm pairings and stories.

Besides, there’s plenty of BL that’s 100% consensual.

Women are absolutely oppressed for displaying their sexuality, and even more so when it doesn’t conform to the ideal of only existing for a cishet man’s pleasure. It’s the reason why fujoshi was created as a term in the first place. This is like, misogyny 101, people.

As for slash fans, specifically, being oppressed? Uh, yeah, actually, people are arrested for writing slash in China. It’s a double-whammy of homophobia and misogyny. Stop pretending this shit doesn’t exist .

“It should mean nothing to you”

Japanese fudanshi and otomen SPECIFICALLY TRANSLATED THE FU-TERMS TO SHARE WITH WESTERN FANDOM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

“Almost everywhere outside of Japan”

lol, no, fuck that US-centric bullshit. Just because this past year some American TERFs decided to co-opt the term to deride trans mlm does NOT negate the fact that when used in a fandom context, its definition means a woman who likes fictional mxm pairings and stories. This is the case in literally everywhere outside of English-speaking US because the ‘fetishizing’ discourse is a very recent US-centric thing, as once again westerners are appropriating terms from foreign cultures and making it mean something bad, which hurts people from the original cultures it came from.

“This isn’t Japan and you aren’t Japanese”

A lot of pro-fu folks in the discourse are Japanese (native and diaspora), or speak the language, or have Japanese family members, or have lived in Japan (or may even currently be living in Japan  – You can access Tumblr from Japan and there are lots of Japanese artists on tumblr)

So… this is a pretty terrible assumption to make.

Besides this, Japanese fu-fandom has given the okay for western slash fandom to share their terms, and it has been that way for approx 12 years already, so it doesn’t matter if the people using the terms are Japanese or not, just that they’re using the correct definition which is…not what anti-fu and TERFs are saying it is.

“You don’t get to scream over mlm who have had absolutely toxic and horrible interactions with those people”

There are toxic people in any fandom, and bad behaviour is not just limited to slash fans. Deriding all female slash fans for the behaviour of some badly behaved people is …not good. In addition, saying that it’s just “fujoshi” that act badly moves the blame away from toxic people who don’t ship slash who then go on to say stuff like “Well, I can’t be abusive because I’m not a fujoshi.”

Also, the majority of these cases of “fujoshi” bothering mlm tend to be baby gays themselves, or young, overenthusiastic allies.

The tea is so fucking hot here.

Hey, just to be sure, is the kl shipper eastern artist U**y that you’ve mentioned the same one that draws a lot of T*g*r & B*n*y doujins? Since the artstyle of her kl doujin seems kinda different from the one in her T&G doujins idk if it’s the same artist.

huntypastellance:

Yeah, she drew those doujins. If you check her pixiv, you’ll see VLD, Yugioh & T&B doujins along with others. She’s pretty good at varying her art style!

She tries to imitate Studio Mir’s art style for her Voltron fanart (even others have praised her for being the closest to the canon art style), so that’s why it looks different.

Also artists can vastly change styles & improve over time, there’s this one artist who used to draw Danganronpa 2 stuff back in the Dramatical Murder fandom & you can kinda see the influences they took from SDR2 in their DMMD fanart even though it was difference of at least 2 or more years. But the two fanarts were very different in aesthetics & appearances (the similarities were in the hatching & heavy jagged lineart – which made for really cool creepy scenes).